Forecast confidence: Rain could reach the main walking period or hold off until later; forecast models disagree on the timing.
A rough, clagged-in day on Cadair Idris - Penygadair: summit wind broadly 20-40 mph, with gusts 40-50 mph during the evening (gale-force winds). Much calmer lower down - generally 10-20 mph in the valley, rising towards the tops. Cloud base around 800-1100 m in the morning, lowering to 500-800 m around midday. Expect the top to stay in cloud for most or all of daylight, with no dependable break. Cloud height is close to summit level at times, so small local changes could put the top in or out of cloud. Cloud is likely to hang lowest on southwestern slopes; the northeastern side should see somewhat higher bases and better breaks. Very little direct sunshine is indicated; cloud is likely to remain extensive. Little or no rain expected. Confidence moderate (forecast models agree on the walking impact of the wind) - walker-height summit wind could reasonably be 30-35 mph, with gusts 42-49 mph. Cloud base is the least certain part of this - it could sit a couple of hundred metres either way, especially where it is close to summit level.
Sunshine and sky
Extensive cloud. Cloud is likely to remain extensive for much of the day.
These are direct modelled sunshine hours during daylight, not the probability of sunshine. Cloud cover and summit cloud are assessed separately in the forecast above. Local hill cloud can still make an individual summit brighter or duller than the surrounding model grid.
Overnight · 6 p.m.–9 a.m.Wild campingBetaGusts near 70 mph make meaningful shelter important. 24/100Poor · 600 m View detailsHide details
Full overnight outlook
Open-hillside camping looks poor overall around 600 m (24/100). A lower pitch near 300 m looks more comfortable; conditions are less suitable by 900 m. Open-ground gusts may reach about 70 mph, making exposed pitches a poor choice. Peak gusts increase from about 50 mph at 300 m to 70 mph at 900 m. A wet night is likely, with roughly 35.8 mm; the wettest inconvenience is most likely around pack-up. From around 600 m upward, pitches may spend part of the night in cloud, with high condensation risk, persistent damp and poor visibility; ventilation will matter. The coldest temperature falls from about 11.3°C at 300 m to 8.9°C at 900 m.
Elevation reference (open ground)
- Wind / gust
- 23 / 49 mph
- Typical / low
- 13.8° / 11.3°C
- In cloud
- Unlikely
- Condensation
- High
- Wind / gust
- 28 / 58 mph
- Typical / low
- 13.4° / 10.7°C
- In cloud
- 31% of night
- Condensation
- High
- Wind / gust
- 33 / 69 mph
- Typical / low
- 11.6° / 8.9°C · several hours
- In cloud
- 100% of night
- Condensation
- High
Warmth planning: As a broad starting point, consider a 2-season bag with an ISO/EN comfort rating at or below about 8°C. Allow more margin if you sleep cold or expect fatigue, and use an adequate insulated mat. Dampness is possible, so keep the sleep system dry and ensure its insulation remains effective if damp.
Open-hillside reference. A sheltered pitch may be calmer; cols and ridges may be much windier. Tent design and the exact pitch still matter. Read about sleeping-bag comfort ratings, pitching in strong winds or using the wild-camping forecast.
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Daytime · exposed rockClimbing & scramblingBetaGusts near 45 mph increase the seriousness of exposed ground. 0/100Poor · Very poor View detailsHide details
Full climbing & scrambling outlook
Conditions for exposed scrambling look very poor (0/100). Some rock may still be damp or drying; polished slabs and vegetated sections could be notably worse. The mapped summit rock is Tuff and lava (Pen y gadair Volcanic Formation). Often grippy when dry, but volcanic rocks vary widely; wet lichen, smooth holds and local seepage can still make them slippery. Representative samples along available mapped routes also include Microgranite, Mudstone and 4 other mapped types, so rock character and wet-weather behaviour may change across the mountain. Gusts may reach about 45 mph; crosswinds can make exposed ridges substantially more serious. Cloud may also make route-finding and retreat harder.
Often grippy when dry, but volcanic rocks vary widely; wet lichen, smooth holds and local seepage can still make them slippery. Summit-point mapping plus representative BGS bedrock samples along available GPX routes. These are not continuous geological surveys; contacts, superficial deposits and the exposed rock on individual holds may differ.
8 rock types appear across the available route samples
The summit type remains the forecast's cautious rock-response reference. Other mapped types show where conditions may behave differently elsewhere on the mountain.
Often grippy when dry, but volcanic rocks vary widely; wet lichen, smooth holds and local seepage can still make them slippery.
BGS recordGenerally grippy when dry and often still positive when damp, but wet slabs, lichen, polish and drainage lines can remain slippery.
BGS recordOften positive when dry, but smooth, polished or slabby sections can become markedly more slippery when damp.
BGS recordOften grippy when dry, but volcanic rocks vary widely; wet lichen, smooth holds and local seepage can still make them slippery.
BGS recordOften grippy when dry, but volcanic rocks vary widely; wet lichen, smooth holds and local seepage can still make them slippery.
BGS recordOften positive when dry, but smooth, polished or slabby sections can become markedly more slippery when damp.
BGS recordOften grippy when dry, but volcanic rocks vary widely; wet lichen, smooth holds and local seepage can still make them slippery.
BGS recordOften positive when dry, but smooth, polished or slabby sections can become markedly more slippery when damp.
BGS recordSee sampled routes
Peak Cadair Idris Minffordd105–844 m samplesMudstone · Felsic tuff · Mudstone and siltstone · Tuff and lava · Tuffaceous-mudstone with clasts of pillowed basalt and volcaniclastic rock
Peak Cadair Idris Pony Path162–844 m samplesMicrogranite · Basalt · Mudstone · Tuff and lava · Tuff and lava
Generic exposed scrambling terrain; mapped summit-point bedrock is included where available, but route grade, exact rock, polish, drainage and escape options remain unresolved. Contains British Geological Survey materials © UKRI 2026. How to use the climbing and scrambling forecast.




